..."even some of the Senators at Capitol Hill..." It all makes sense now ! : )
After Harold Lamb no authoritative work on Genghis Khan was published till 2004 or 2005, which is "Genghis Khan And The Making of The Modern World" by Prof Jack Weatherford of University of Minnesota. A must read for anyone interested in Genghis Khan.
Re his descendants, Kubalai Khan in China, The Great Mughal in India, The Golden Hoards of Europe, the Il-Khans of middle east and so on, each brilliant in their own ways of choosing.
I quote a very important disclaimer contained in one of the article:
Quote:
" In the life and legacy of the great Mongol warlord I suspect we see the patterns of male domination and power projection which were the norm after the decline of hunter-gatherers, and before the rise of the mass consumer society. During this period complex civilizations built on rents extracted from subsistence agriculturalists arose. These civilizations were dominated by powerful men, who could accrue to themselves massive surpluses, and translate those surpluses into reproductive advantage. This was not possible in the hunter-gatherer world where reproductive variance was constrained by the reality that allocation of resources was relatively equitable from person to person. But with agriculture and village society inequality shot up, and the winner-take-all dynamic came to the fore. And so the appearance on the scene genetically of super-Y lineages. Over the past 200 years the pendulum has started to shift back, thanks to the spread of Western values and normative monogamy, which dampens the potential unequal reproductive outcomes between the rich and the poor."
This disclaimer clearly draws our attention to some of the more important historical and social aspects of the argument. It is inconceivable (no pun intended) that the Y chromosome is the only determinant of of genealogy and that the X chromosome has nothing to do with it. If one tries to trace back family trees it is inevitable that you keep narrowing the origins as it always takes two to reproduce in a heterosexually reproductive species. The similarity of this with the big bang theory in cosmology is amazing. Since the universe is expanding today,all bodies in it must have been closer to each other yesterday. The more you go into the past, the smaller the universe becomes until you reach the point of the big bang, whic his the beginning of time.
Like wise, if one goes back in time, you have no option but to conclude that life itself began with a single molecule which at some point in time began to replicate itself and organise a life form.
The article quoted by Amita is a review article of the original research paper which relies a lot on statistical methods of analysis and deals with incredibly small probability numbers such as 10raised minus 237 and 10raised to minus 10.
In the evolution of human species or life in general, bisexual reproduction must have happened at a later date and the lineage of human beings at some time must have been of the nature of self-fertilisation. In this context the story of pururavas is very interesting which says he was born of Ila who was male and female at the same time!
To come back to Genghis Khan, see a movie of that name where the venerable Khan is played by Omar Sharif, and the game of buzkashi picturised in it is a thrilling experience.
In the same Dutch village where I used to live, Horst, lives Dschero Khan (see his FB page), Dutch stamps were issues with his photo on.
These are all exaggerations and over-extension of scientific premises. Theoretically, the gene pool is traced back to 1000 years, 250 years behind Genghis Khan. As the disclaimer in the original article observes the pool will dissipate as the monogamous society of today (as compared to the single-male dominated harem society of Genghis Khan period) grows a few centuries old.
in Europe, many people check ancestors records, as a hobby - this way, quite a few Dutch people claim to have Charlemagne (Karel de Grote in Dutch) as their ancestor, quite a big ruler too.....
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..."even some of the Senators at Capitol Hill..." It all makes sense now ! : )
After Harold Lamb no authoritative work on Genghis Khan was published till 2004 or 2005, which is "Genghis Khan And The Making of The Modern World" by Prof Jack Weatherford of University of Minnesota. A must read for anyone interested in Genghis Khan. Re his descendants, Kubalai Khan in China, The Great Mughal in India, The Golden Hoards of Europe, the Il-Khans of middle east and so on, each brilliant in their own ways of choosing.
I quote a very important disclaimer contained in one of the article: Quote: " In the life and legacy of the great Mongol warlord I suspect we see the patterns of male domination and power projection which were the norm after the decline of hunter-gatherers, and before the rise of the mass consumer society. During this period complex civilizations built on rents extracted from subsistence agriculturalists arose. These civilizations were dominated by powerful men, who could accrue to themselves massive surpluses, and translate those surpluses into reproductive advantage. This was not possible in the hunter-gatherer world where reproductive variance was constrained by the reality that allocation of resources was relatively equitable from person to person. But with agriculture and village society inequality shot up, and the winner-take-all dynamic came to the fore. And so the appearance on the scene genetically of super-Y lineages. Over the past 200 years the pendulum has started to shift back, thanks to the spread of Western values and normative monogamy, which dampens the potential unequal reproductive outcomes between the rich and the poor." This disclaimer clearly draws our attention to some of the more important historical and social aspects of the argument. It is inconceivable (no pun intended) that the Y chromosome is the only determinant of of genealogy and that the X chromosome has nothing to do with it. If one tries to trace back family trees it is inevitable that you keep narrowing the origins as it always takes two to reproduce in a heterosexually reproductive species. The similarity of this with the big bang theory in cosmology is amazing. Since the universe is expanding today,all bodies in it must have been closer to each other yesterday. The more you go into the past, the smaller the universe becomes until you reach the point of the big bang, whic his the beginning of time. Like wise, if one goes back in time, you have no option but to conclude that life itself began with a single molecule which at some point in time began to replicate itself and organise a life form. The article quoted by Amita is a review article of the original research paper which relies a lot on statistical methods of analysis and deals with incredibly small probability numbers such as 10raised minus 237 and 10raised to minus 10. In the evolution of human species or life in general, bisexual reproduction must have happened at a later date and the lineage of human beings at some time must have been of the nature of self-fertilisation. In this context the story of pururavas is very interesting which says he was born of Ila who was male and female at the same time! To come back to Genghis Khan, see a movie of that name where the venerable Khan is played by Omar Sharif, and the game of buzkashi picturised in it is a thrilling experience.
In the same Dutch village where I used to live, Horst, lives Dschero Khan (see his FB page), Dutch stamps were issues with his photo on.
These are all exaggerations and over-extension of scientific premises. Theoretically, the gene pool is traced back to 1000 years, 250 years behind Genghis Khan. As the disclaimer in the original article observes the pool will dissipate as the monogamous society of today (as compared to the single-male dominated harem society of Genghis Khan period) grows a few centuries old.
in Europe, many people check ancestors records, as a hobby - this way, quite a few Dutch people claim to have Charlemagne (Karel de Grote in Dutch) as their ancestor, quite a big ruler too.....